Camfrog Pro Subscriptions Starting February 1
All Camfrog Pro serials purchased on or after February 1, 2011 will be subscription-based and last one year. Our order page and order emails will be updated to make it clear that Camfrog Pro serials purchased on February 1 and later are annual subscription items.
All Camfrog Pro serials purchased before February 1 will not be changed and your current Camfrog Pro serials will work as they always have. If you purchased a Camfrog Pro serial before February 1, 2011 the serial will not change and will not become a subscription serial.
Thank you for supporting Camfrog and purchasing Camfrog Pro.
Update: Paltalk has decided to keep Camfrog Server and Bot serials as they are now, where they are not subscription. Camfrog Server and Bot serials will not change on February 1. Only Camfrog Client serials will change on February 1.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Hi You just Killed Camfrog Or do think ppl are going pay yearly i don’t think so you need keep servers only frist help us all with this ping thing
This all sucks ppl are just going leave go back to msn messager or facebook we pay for our internet services…. and now have pay yearly on here not going happen
January 17th, 2011 at 9:07 am
i like camfrog….is the bestt
January 17th, 2011 at 9:08 am
why is this happening now i thought all codes were perminant when purchased so what the point now in spending nearly $200 usd for a server code when you only get a year out of it and theres also dedicated server costs. admin will prices on the serial numbers be reflected on this change.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:11 am
You kill yourself
January 17th, 2011 at 9:20 am
youre kidding ?
the pro codes cost up to 40 euros no one would buy this .. this is the thing why all users from camfrog not go to paltalk …damn this is not a good idea
im happy my code is from 2010
January 17th, 2011 at 9:26 am
bit crazy . what gonne be the new price ??
related to the price now for lifetime codes
i guess the new price gonne be 5 dollar a year ?
if not thn i guess goodbye CF it gonne die slowly
possible u go for fun disable the old pro,s
and why ,,,
so people go to the new option and keep pay
WRONG STEP in CF 2011 bring no good news
Sorry to say
January 17th, 2011 at 9:27 am
Camfrog should think about there USERS not there Money comeing in this y in the frist place i left paltalk and came to Camfrog Well i tell what if do this i am going off camfrog full time and i can not wait till facebook bring this new webcam chat out you are going lose users Camfrog KEEP THIS GOING PPL WE WILL NOT LET CAMFROG WIN you think ppl going pay for what do too 6.0
omg i don’t think so who with me on this one
January 17th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Good business practice in my opinion.
Camfrog could have gone for the monthly but instead made it yearly.
Hats to Camfrog and there Business management team.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Ok, so this is just my opinion. I understand that you guys need to make money, but is it seriously not enough that you’re making money $50 american off of people for pro codes? I mean I get that PalTalk is like bought out Camfrog which is their prerogative and all but really guys. This is like really frustrating. And the updates for 6.0 some are totally cool, but you need to have like customizable fonts, and I’m sure you’ve heard it all already. But this is just another thing that people are REALLY going to hate. We all like Camfrog because it’s totally user friendly and you don’t have to continually buy a subscription. I do own a code from prior to this switch and all but if you guys want to make more money why not up the original price? I know people would still bitch about that but at least you’d make more money and people wouldn’t HAVE to continually pay for this subscription, you’re taking away Camfrog from Camfrogers. I agree with the above comment, maybe not msn messenger but I bet lots of people will goto chatroulette.com just because its FREE. I know there has got to be a direct of public marketing and what not, but seriously maybe test ideas on the froggers before forcing us all to leave.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Cash Cash Cash all for this? It seems not making sense for person who paid for serial legally and Thx for making this world goes worse.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:40 am
HEY WHATS UP WITH THIS BULL CRAP…..SERIALS SHOULD BE A LIFE TIME AN NOT A ONE YEAR DAME THING U GUYS NEEDS TO GROW THE F UP AN NOT DO THIS …THIS IS GOING TO KILL PEOPLE WITH SPENDING MONEY WHEN JOBS ARE TIGHT AN HARD TO FIND IF U GUYS DO THIS IT WILL KILL CAMFROG TOTALLY AND MOST PEOPLE DONT LIKE THIS CRAP BEINBG CHANGED AROUND SO MUCH …JUST LIKE PALTALK 60 FOR GREEN A YEAR AND 40 FOR BLUE A YEAR AND NOW PAYING FOR ROOMS 1,000 A MONTH…..Again please dont do this its killing every one on camfrog …….u guys needs to keep this the way it is dats why u guys have over a million customers on camfrog then MSN , YAHOO, PALTALK, AOL, and much more again please dont change this i own 4 pro codes an i dont think this is right u guys change this crap again dont do this u will hurt alot of people an customers….thankz
January 17th, 2011 at 9:51 am
guys down your weappons ! Its only for new costumers your keys are safe with lifetime argument.. but i dont like the new paltalk system
what is the next step ? 10 sek videos in camfrog for nonpro ? i wish me back to basics from 3.94 the video quality are the same but i can open up to 100 cams with under 19 % cpu smile
January 17th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Camfrog was above Paltalk in downloads, because of the system they had.
Go look at the opentalk userbase if you want to see what the future of Camfrog will look like if this keeps up.
What are you paying for annually, your own bandwidth?
Is it a tax?
There is no way to excuse this , it is obviously solely based on greed.
January 17th, 2011 at 10:00 am
lol camforg befor u do that u need two sort out the pinging off rooms and users we all report them and u dont do out but now u what us two give u more cash if u need it are u saying u in debit if so talk two us all we the ones who keep this a life with out us there be no cafrog u mybe think,ing so there 45 off us not happy but i bet i see this blog with 20000 users from all side saying no two this
January 17th, 2011 at 10:32 am
well with this i think it will kill frog alot but it is up to u wot u do.
one thing i do say if you are doing this bring back the Affiliate Program
January 17th, 2011 at 11:03 am
This idea has its pro’s and cons.. guess it depends on what the yearly fee is going to be… if its something like $10usd/year I think its great idea for both users and cf themselves… if its $50usd/year… then wow that will kill your income cf… just my suggestion cf… $50/lifetime fare price…. $10/year fare price…. $50/yr way to expensive
January 17th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Hmmm . . they want to encourage people in the Philippines to use camfrog but then charge a yearly fee for a pro-code . . . . people in the Phils cannot afford it for a lifetime once payment, let alone each year !!
I guess it’s the greedy people of Paltalk that have done this.
January 17th, 2011 at 11:47 am
What not offer this ALONG SIDE lifetime codes? With lifetime ones staying at the current price and yearly ones being cheaper?
And if some hacker/cracker steals my lifetime code through no fault of mine, will it get replaced by a lifetime one? Or will I be forced to then buy yearly ones?
Not good…
If you go this way, it would also be nice to see some improvements in dealing with the room attacks and other crap that go’s on, surely u could afford that with the increase in revenue you’ll have….
January 17th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Woah, out of everything I thought Camfrog wouldn’t do, would be this.
I can’t believe it. I feel sorry for the new users from the 1st of Feb 2011, because they now have to pay an annual fee for Camfrog Pro… When everyone prior to that deadline have still got their codes for a lifetime?
Personally, I have been here since 2005 and I have always though the old system prior to Feb 2011, worked like a charm. It was fair, and it was clear. You brought Camfrog pro once, enjoy yourself. End of story, everyone is happy.
But, now they got this whole new system in play? Like Paltalk?
They are just going to lose new users, because new users after 1st Feb, are going to feel discriminated just because they have joined later?
Granted, Camfrog MAY make more money… Because on one had they might because Camfrog is very different to alot of Video Chat programs, but on the other hand, people only want to pay once… So therefore, they might loose new users.
Give it a blast Camfrog, see how it works.
I just don’t think it will be a sucessfull as they plan it out to be.
Good luck.
~Westbury
January 17th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Here is some feedback as a room owner. Once people have gotten over the initial shock this is going to happen most seem willing to pay a yearly subscription IF its a reasonable price say $20 US for the year. Most have made it clear that they WILL NOT pay $50 US a year for a subscription and will go else where to chat. I think it would be safe to say that in general this is what you are going to find across the camfrog community. For those who are thinking … well I already have a pro code so what do I care … true as stated you will not have to pay a yearly fee. However … codes get lost and stolen remember. Also this will seriously impact the joining of new users. Chat communities survive because new people join. So yes you won’t have to pay every year but will you bother to be on camfrog if all the rooms are empty? Think about that and have a great day
January 17th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Wow Peopel are all staying comments about things here But they saying we pay for pro for year then again next year ok nps but if going do that better have better support on you helpdesk cuz you know when email you lot just don’t get back to us or just send nice message don’t share pro codes well you have stoped that one now bring this in well this all just change since paltalk took over Camfrog so its true then Paltalk own the lot and you should have better admins on line bring the Helpdesk room back online make 6.1 better cuz what we get for our pro i think better with out pro code really not much diffrence part from privaty chat open loads cams and fileshare we want more that can do with pro code then mabe you will be winner
January 17th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
my thought is bad pr back to back changes are a pr nightmare lol if u guys are changeing us to pailtalk platfrom just do it cut your loss and try to rebuild couse most will leave and new users wont stay or try pro must say tho good job killing the booter tool thanks camfrog is great but like said times are hard and cash short users will move on to new or back to old freebees like yahoo if u want to kill camfrog you might be on right road as far as i here in chat food for thought
January 17th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
if they change things and rules in code,s
i know what go happen i had 4 pro codes im a room owner
and use different pc,s all a code in non shared just as they said
they change things and poof in one week 2 codes disabled why … no idea get no answer from helpdesk
so i feel already in now and februar my last 2 pro codes get disabled to right ?
so u can cell a monthly subscribtion
we had a talk in room with 270 people .. non of them go on a yearly subscribtion if the price is above 10 dollar
and true disabled life time pro,s should be replaced as a life time pro again
what with room server codes and bot codes ??
life time or change to ,,
if that also go on subscribtion then better say stop wole camfrog 1 febr
it not work ….
January 17th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
i think this will be the beginning of the end of CF which i always loves so much. An annual payment is not what users like. I understand the difficulties of cracks and so but this….. I cant think of anything positive of it.
January 17th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Camfrog this really is a terrible idea!!
Pro codes will be so highly prized that hackers will be hell bent on getting the old codes, which in turn will make it hell for those left.
I was under the impression that PalTalk bought Camfrog for access to the asian market and the simple truth is that asian countries don’t have that kind of money to shelling out.
I believe that this will be a disastrous move for Camfrog to take and ask you to reconsider this, as I think this move will signal the end of camfrog very quickly.
January 17th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Hello ADMIN
Or Camfrog Bot and Server code is 1 year?
January 17th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Camfrog.. are you going to release what the yearly price will be before the 1st? Personally i think a yearly price is a good idea if its cheap enough. As stated before alot of the asian market cant afford the lifetime membership. An affordable yearly price (I’d say around $10-$15usd) would surly increase sales of pro code not to mention people giving them as gifts/prizes
January 17th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Good luck with this Camfrog. Remember the existing system is why millions of people use camfrog and its popular. I can see this will soon change with these changes. There will be no reason to invite people to camfrog when there are camfrog web websites that do not charge for pro at all.
January 17th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
All it will take is for one company to offer a similar package to camfrog with a lifetime pro subscription policy. I doubt camfrog will last very long after that.
January 17th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Dunno why ppl are moanin tbh, u either have pro or u dont – simples!!
If u already have pro then it aint gona effect you, most ppl that dont have it tend not to bother anyways, so tbh it aint gonna make much difference!
Only thing i wud say issssssss … they wont be able to justify chargin as much on a yearly basis as they have done for life long pro.
So basically £35 or whatever for unlimited pro as it has been, they shud NOT charge that much for year by year!!
January 17th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
u will not sell a new code after the first
January 17th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Wow! I didn’t think day would come. The lifetime pro 1 time fee is partially why I purchased pro in the first way back in the day. I don’t see this lasting long really. This is unfair to those signing up even though it’s for a year. This is forcing people to buy pro before the 1st so they can have the lifetime membership. Not fair in my opion keep it lifetime for 50! maybe 60 who knows
January 17th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
As one of the oldest active members of this program, i can say rip camfrog, making this into a yearly subscription will kill new rooms new users and take your multi million user program in to a maybe one million minus program even with the combination of paltalk, you are dooming this program and if the owners are reading this, go listen to the rooms, everyone is looking for a new home, abandon ship, if you want to kill camfrog do it up, you are killing a culture not a program. maybe take a look at who uses your program that your buying, so you know your market before you say \oh this will work better\ bad judgement just my opinion i have been wrong before in 1994. once
January 17th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
I think this is going to kill Camfrog. One of the reasons so many users spend the 50 bucks to buy pro is because it’s a one time fee. And if a new user were to ask me if it is worth it to buy pro after feb. 1st I’d tell them no.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
After 7+ years of a winning formula of allowing lifetime interaction with the program/community for just 50 dollars, changing to subscription is saying you do not want people to stick around. The reason why I’ve used this program for as long as I have, is because I was able to spend 50 dollars just once, no worry about things ending, no worry about the clock running down to zero. And I know for a fact the reason why other people have stuck around and invested MORE money into the program and developing the community of camfrog is because of the low cost upfront. I have stuck around because I invested and I’ve gotten more than just “50 dollars worth” in return with hours, days, years of familiarity, friendships, relationships, and entertainment.
I feel this is completely against the founding idea of community that camfrog started out as.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Really, is everyone seriously crying over a 50 dollar annual fee? How poor and stupid are you people? If you can’t afford to pay 50 dollars a year, maybe you should spend less time on Camfrog, and more time trying to earn more money. Besides, with that kind of income, Camfrog can afford to install some major upgrades and provide more benefits to its users. With the number of people joining Camfrog everyday, I’m surprised they have only been charging a one time fee for this long. How do you expect them to pay for more server space as the numbers grow? This is how Business works, this is how the world works. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Get used to it people. I’ll gladly dish out 50 dollars a year, it’s honestly not that much they are asking for.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Why are you going to charge to use the program for 1 year at a time? are you saying we do not want no new users say go away all you veterans of the program. You pretty much are killing the program. The bast thing to do is keep the architecture of the program the same and maybe bring back the code referral links back, also just make improvements. That would help the program best. You will just how many users just ship and move on to another chat program/site. You well think how you none messed up and killed the program and do not make the money you could. This could be said about the program, don’t fix what is not broken and improve it.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Thank you for all your comments. Please note that if you already have a Pro code or plan to buy one before February 1 nothing will change for you.
Client Pro codes will continue to be $50 per year so that’s only around $4 per month. You can continue to use the free version of Camfrog if you don’t want to pay, it will just be limited.
We are working hard to move Camfrog to a new more reliable infrastructure and the new income we receive from news users will allow us to improve our software and develop for new operating systems like Android and more.
We have also heard your concerns about 6.0 so we’re working hard to release a new version that brings back font changes along with all your other concerns.
We appreciate your feedback and comments and we read them all.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
ok kool so it just chat not server code ,s
January 17th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Gardeners, new bot/server codes will be subscription also.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
depend if they go ask it for bot codes , server codes to then rent rooms get for 80 % of room owners to much so the rooms close faster as they do now already
and not everyone can pay easy 50 Dollar its even unfair t say go earn money because some want but have no change for that
and true i know they have to pay their servers but ,,,
if u look to CF 6 … then its not worth lol because its a terrible update
with lots of missing options , maybe the money was to less to make a beter version then stay at the old and .. not go ask a yearly payment
January 17th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
ok admin thanks for the up date i just hope this new camfrog will stop the ddos ing off room,s and users
January 17th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
Sadly I doubt there will be much income from new users, not when they can go elsewhere. Please rethink this before it ruins camfrog.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
Dear Frog,
Subscription system is reasonable. I agree with this idea, BUT should be bundle with “affordable” price, of course. Yeah.. let say, $20/year as someone said above. Or, in line with 4nthony, use monthly basis, let say, $2,95/months. Or $ 4,95 for 90 days like VG system.
We know exactly that you need money to improve your system (and your balance!). However, performing “Paltalk-ization of Camfrog” without synchronizing to your users voices will just be far away from what you had monetarily obsessed in the future. I know U had all this on your desks already, so perform it on 1 February or better you cancel the plan for the sake of the better Camfrog !
NAGABRAHMAN
January 17th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
OK camfrog… its your loss.. My server and client pro codes are paid for already… as with many users… we’re paid for already… you income is based on new users only… I’m sure us paid members will stick around for awhile.. but that’s no income for you… and you will surely see a loss of new pro client sales….. but that’s your loss.. not ours. .. we’re paid for already …
January 17th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Any price reviews for server subscriptions? Maybe separate pricing for room hosters and individuals.
Shelling out $200/year for each room isn’t feasible for most hosters, you’ll have them bankrupt before they can even get started. Maybe offer a single $200 subscription license per physical machine but should allow us to host as many rooms as we want, it may require you guys to do some internal restructuring though. I don’t mind giving up my old server licenses to move to this model. No decent server in their right minds would dare cram too many rooms under one server anyway, so this seems like a nice compromise; individuals still pay a yearly $200 fee, servers still pay a yearly $200 fee + $200 for each additional dedicated server. Much more hoster friendly, and will encourage more rooms to open on the camfrog network.
From what I’ve seen all the server does is relay udp streams from user to user, so no proprietary codecs involved on the server side, since all the encoding and decoding is done client side, so imo, this won’t warrant a $200/year fee per room when server 5.0 already hosts rooms under one process/console.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Bandwidth is still expensive as it is, and since hosters provide the bandwidth and servers to host rooms at direct expense to camfrog, a price review for server subscriptions would be greatly appreciated.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
oops, it should have been at no direct expense to camfrog.
Now considering your Camfrog Client licenses, maybe offering a Lifetime License ($50) would be something nice to consider. When a major version is released, charge us an upgrade fee for the latest version if the license was bought say 3-6 months before the major version was released.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Camfrog Pay nothing for Server Bandwidth. Hosting provider pay for bandwidth cost and Camfrog taxed yearly!!
Good luck for new room.
I think Camfrog room stop to growing more now!
and I think Hosting provider will charge more for all exciting room,
The result is they the owner stop to make rooms.
Do you really think that people in this world are rich?
Overall, I think main Camfrog market is in Asia.
With Respect.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Admin said : \new bot/server codes will be subscription also.\
Camfrog Totally Be Killed!!!!
Nice work for Paltalk.
What will happen if owners stop to make their rooms
With respect, I love Camfrog, I don’t want you destroy our communities.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
I think I’ve heard about the impending doom for camfrog about a dozen times over the years I’ve been on. Fact is even free camfrog is better than just about anything else out there. If/when this changes obviously camfrog will have a problem.
Truth is the vast majority of users never buy pro. For some there is not a lot of difference between $50/year and $50 once, so camfrog almost HAS to charge them this way to stay in business. This pricing change plus removing the don’t ask don’t tell policy on serial sharing is a double whammy for price sensitive users. I’m not so sure there will be fewer users on camfrog, but there will be fewer users with pro. That may actually help some rooms that have lots of pro users sucking bandwidth.
For what it’s worth, I’d recommend to camfrog that they allow a pro renewal based on a percentage of the base price (10%? 50%?). this would give you some of the recurring revenue you need plus offer a less scary scenario for the end user.
I never thought people would buy virtual gifts that last only 90 days….
January 17th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Paltalk GET OUT!
January 17th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
With my Respect I feel like here is not place we usually chat never ever been like hell system. Please give our Frog back we need our Frog system not Paltalk system. YOU JUST COME TO EARN (money talk) all things just money subjects it seems like we are such a fool chatters. I’m sure if you keep doing this way soon this program going die and new other millions program will come to delete Camfrog from network history.
January 17th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Bravo!!!!!!! Very Good Job PALTALK, End Frog Up by causing Chatters hates Frog within 1 year Frog going to be erase from Cyber.
January 17th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
Frog how can you let other kill your froggers?
January 17th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
So, what exactly will the new users be paying for?
Customer service?… (From what I’ve seen is next to non-existent)
Bandwidth?… (Nope > Room owners and even user pay for that{isp})
Money to make the program better? (like 6.0?) LOL!
After 6.x And HQ video and rumored Stereo Audio mode, what more is there to upgrade?
Please let me know if I missed anything.
People don’t have to use this program, their are alternatives popping up left right and center
But people dedicate THEIR valuable time to making this program work.
Ops and Admins…
These people don’t ask for a annual paycheck.. even though they would deserve it….. maybe they should now!
How would you feel CAMFROG?
So you want to make more money… we get this.
Why? sure you have your own agenda… and want us to believe it’s for the betterment of the program…even though it’s going to kill the program, and what it stands for…
Doing something that 9/10 people are telling you is a bad idea, is not the way to go about making more money… but less.
Not only that but you cannot even justify it as I clearly pointed out above.
And that’s all.
January 17th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
u want to abandon your customers, baby !! have good time with urself
January 17th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
Its sound not good…camfrog will die slowly
Changes in december is still going on and now there are more changes. Why change only leads to money, why not think how to bring more user joining camfrog.
/w my respect
January 18th, 2011 at 1:41 am
Sinceramente, yo creo que estamos asistiendo a un acontecimiento que sera recordado despues, camfrog ha visto la manera de sacarle beneficio permanente, lo entiendo desde el punto de vista de empresario, pero, ¿que pasa con los que alquilan salas?, tienen un numero limitado de seriales, ahora no se le va a sacar beneficio, no interesa, eso es lo que camfrog persigue, hacerse con todo el mercado y por supuesto, dejaran de vender seriales pro para server/bot, no interesa, se acabo el beneficio.
Ahora imaginaros que ocurre en mes de febrero: un serial de sala y uno de bot son 280 euros en total, solo valen para una sala y un bot, durante un año, si lo repartes entre 12 meses, te sale a 23,33 al mes, si le sumas el gasto de servidor, seguridad, trato personalizado, tiempo empleado… ¿Veis ahora lo que persigue camfrog? Se cargan a los Hosters
camfrog ya solo sera recordado con nostalgia, ahora necesitas dinero permanentemente y te resultara muy complicado tener tu sala, a no ser que se las alquiles a ellos, con un servicio nada personalizado. No me gusta y no lo apruebo
January 18th, 2011 at 2:00 am
eagerly waiting for what will be more .. Camfrog finish your applications ..
January 18th, 2011 at 3:17 am
i have only been a camfrog user just over a year now n when i 1st join cf i liked the fact it was a 1 of payment n this is why i bought pocode… I feel this yearly subscription will only cause more ppl to b hacked for their procodes n when they are hacked will cf replace them answer NO cuz helpdesk just ignores their uses..And i agree ppl who op the rooms do so in their spare time but dont get paid n if an op is hacked for procode cf wont replace it even they they have put alot of hours n their free time into looking after their rooms. I personally feel this is a bad idea but am just 1 in many who feel the same but our views will just b ignored.. WTG camfrog
January 18th, 2011 at 4:11 am
Rite as i seen wot most ppl have put to find out as camfrog is not posting back at all
Camfrog is this new thing just for camfrog pro or all of the codes meaning
Camfrog Pro
Server Pro
Bot Pro
Or is it just on camfrog user pro
January 18th, 2011 at 4:26 am
AddcitedHosting, they answered already:
admin Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Gardeners, new bot/server codes will be subscription also.
January 18th, 2011 at 4:45 am
Hoster just will have to put the price up for rooms.
i am not saying we are but ppl all may in time
January 18th, 2011 at 5:12 am
In fact there camfrog largest market in Asia,
but only less than 20% of them are able to buy and use the pro users.
Therefore, at this time Camfrog better think about how this huge potential maximally processed either from loyalty pro usernya usernya or purchase,
so that equal the same benefit.
January 18th, 2011 at 5:13 am
je ne suis pas d’accord, ou alors il faudra baisser le prix des cles pro en consequence, il va y avoir deux sortes de froggers les anciens et les nouveaux,?
les gifs sont deja payants pour une duree limitee, maintenant les cles et ca va s’arreter ou? apres ce sera le tour des cles servers?
comme c’est domage que l’un des seuls logiciels de visiochat vraiment bien fait disparaisse ainsi, faute de users honetes, car nul doute que le traffic de fausses cles va renaitre de ses cendres, place aux hackers de tous bords donc
January 18th, 2011 at 6:18 am
if u see the price from server pro and bot pro
and then now see the plans from yr subscribtion same price as now a pro
if that is same for server and bot pro same price a year as the lifetime now
then rent a room go fast to 2 time the price of now ….
guess the result ..CLOSE ROOM CLOSE ROOM CLOSE ROOM
now many rooms monthly already do all they can to get it payd
if price goes up its over fast ;;)
January 18th, 2011 at 6:31 am
Bravo!!!!!!! Very Good Job PALTALK, End Frog Up by causing Chatters hates Frog within 1 year Frog going to be erase from the Cyber.
Frog how can you let other kill your froggers?
January 18th, 2011 at 7:25 am
After February 1 will be possible to sell PRO on indefinitely?
January 18th, 2011 at 7:27 am
Considering their largest userbase are mostly in Asia where average salaries range from $200-$300 a month, less people will be purchasing pro codes.
I propose stick with the Lifetime License plan, and just charge us with an upgrade fee whenever a major version of Camfrog is released, like from version 5.0 to version 6.0.
If you don’t plan to restructure your pricing schemes, then I hope there’ll be more transparency between the company and it’s clients/users, hopefully reopen the forum so you can receive general feedback from your users and increase interactivity with your own community. Give them their money’s worth before a competitor does with their own Webcam Chat solution
January 18th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Ok then Camfrog you going do this with your Server & bots Codes cost us for great server with no lag about 400 pounds month so them are more well i am not getting no more codes i just got 10 off you now as i am saveing up on this one now also what happends if some one hacks our pro code will we get unlimted one again cuz you know what ppl like on camfrog also this good one what going do about all these ppl that pinging rooms on camfrog we can not stop it cuz if put firewall on high users can not get in there rooms this year thing not going work what if you lowed your prices then more ppl would pay for them we are all happen then KEEP THESE COMMENTS COMEING LOT PPL THAT COMMENT CAMFROG SHOULD LITEN TOO THE USERS AS WE KEEP THIS GOING IF WE LEAVE THERE WOULD BE NO CAMFROG
January 18th, 2011 at 8:32 am
i think we could suggest or write all we want in here
they have make their choice already
and for sure the people wp did make that choice read 0.0 from here
they said lets make 2011 a good year for CF ???
yes in history books we CF slowly dies in 2011
subscribtion ok thats to accept if no other choice but for same price as now a life time ,,, and also for bot and server a subscribtion just one word
COMPLETE FAIL
January 18th, 2011 at 8:40 am
That was not really a god idea
January 18th, 2011 at 8:48 am
good *
January 18th, 2011 at 9:54 am
camfrog or the failure of Paltalk business plan… now everyone know the Camfrog freedom has been bought to become a money maker machine… all is changed now here. I think Paltak is on the bad way… RSP
January 18th, 2011 at 9:56 am
OP,s lol ware do u see them in the uk room ,s after 12pm rite now there none in a room 2 if u host room,s u get pade for them yes and some off you get 60 usa a mouth so if there was with u for 10 mouth,s it will be £370 and that just from one code some off u asked for more a mouth ,s it fuuny becouse know u all can not get loads off money out off camfrog u all crying and loads off u dont pay taxt for there room u host and camfrog now it and u now it two i dont care if u like what i put on this all no0t becouse it ture i think it will work becouse server codes i dont be the same as there now and if there are at 100 usa i be happy two get one and have a vps server for a smill room for me m8s and after 1 year if i dont what me room i dont need two at the end off the day it will happen and note anly one can do so just get on with your life
January 18th, 2011 at 10:07 am
and as for the hacking off codes if u dont accept links and have a anti virus up two date then no one can get your codes dont give out your password two your servers all names,s if some got your code,s then u let then in and it not camfrog who sword help you i think u all lucky that camfrog did not do this 2 years a go
January 18th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Look… You just think about money and money.
Why never think about service, I have report from many people (user/friend) they try always send email to helpdesk when they get some problem but they not receive any respon.
Like one of my problem yesterday, I have order one pro client and send to myfriend (delivery address) but pro did not receive. He have send report email with attachment (order number & email) and until now did not receive any respon.
U think this good management ?? think first before make any changes or people will go…
Thanks
January 18th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Seriously,how can anyone take your comments serious????
Most of you cannot write !!Go back to school !
January 18th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
We at MWT Understand the process for making money, However a yearly subscription is not feasible for a proper budget plan for our customers, in such we will no longer be growing our camfrog CDR and will be maintaining our respective clients.
What this means for camfrog?
Simply saying we will no longer be purchasing pro keys and server keys we will be running with what we have and thats it. This decision is made on your decision of monthly subscriptions however i feel that we maybe loosing the majority of our clientel to this, we’ll wait and see.
The True Tech Choise
MWT Networks corp Solutions.
January 18th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
i wanna write a little story to read for camfrog admins… once there was a guy . he have aduck which give him 1 golden egg everyday…after many year the man keep getting egg from the duck…suddnly one day he wake and thought 1 egg per day is not enough. lets open the tummy of duck and bring out all eggs at once…. he sharpen his knife and start cutting the duck….. after 10 min he make several piece of duck but didnt find a single egg…… u r doing same now….. that man have no chance to make the duck alive again…. but u can save u duck…be happy with 1 egg per day…. according to me u guys already earning alot from virtual gifts and from different pro codes….. … u didnt make camfrog \we\ the users make it…. if \we\ not happy then u cant be happy to… Feed us good…give us good quality..we already fiiling ur pockets with good money… dont be greedy
January 18th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
stop crying users will do that all why is paltalk still a bout it like i sead it becouse none off u will get the money u did from the codes and as none off u pay taxt who care,s i with this mybe now camfrog be a safe place two be
January 18th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
We also won’t be buying any more codes. We expect user levels to drop and this will only lead to less demand for rooms, and a steady decline in camfrog until it folds completely.
We could not remain competative having to purchase codes annually so we will sit with what we have and just watch and see how it goes. Having spoken to a number of server hosts, they all feel the same way.
I truely hope that Camfrog revisits this crazy idea, but what will be will be. When it all goes wrong, I’m sure that the blame will be put on people not buying codes and not on the fact that the new model is unsustainable.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
all i ahve to say is so much for camfrog always been free!!!!!
Camfrog always presented itself to always bee free..
we always know that was a load of shit
January 18th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
i can see a class action law suit comming on All users again camfrog or should i say Shitfrog or Paltalk.
Take it from a business man, no one wants to pay unless they have to! and camforg annual fee they wont do!
January 19th, 2011 at 1:18 am
Whats wrong with my Posts Frog, some posts you allow are shocking yet you let them post?????
We have spent $14,000 on codes, don’t you think we have erned the right to post on here, blocking people posting constructive critism just isn’t right!!!
What happened to freedom off speech???
Links and bad language I understand!!!
Pete
January 19th, 2011 at 3:13 am
All the Hoster want to do is buy codes as reasonable prices and in turn invest in Camfrog, but invest in the right areas.
If this means Subscriptions on codes then so be it, but at the rigth price, not the current prices.
One Room $240 – Room $20-30 x 12 = $240 (so who pays for the bandwidth of the server and it’s protection) and then wheres the Hosters profit???
The prices seriously need to be re-assessed, Hoster will I am sure then continue to buy codes and help Camfrog invest.
We don’t want to see Camfrog cease to exist, we want it to improve but not by making it almost impossible to actually afford the program.
There are many Hoster threatening, to close there rooms down for a day or two, Zipcode, Scooby, Aussie, MWT, NoDrAmaUk, Addicted, Blackjack, Edagre and so on some of these are big Hosters especially in the UK/USA Section. We all care for Camfrog, not just because like you we run a business, because we want Camfrog to see sense and listen to there users, especially the one who buy codes, or have in the past.
Open a room, a proper Forum something which is not moderated to a sense that people can’t leave good constructive criticism.
Remember alot of these Hosters and users leaving comments have been on Camfrog a very long time, and just want a input and use there experience over the years with Camfrog and how it has grown, or does Paltalk say what goes, and the original Staff of Camfrog just carry out there new rules and orders???
We leave comments on here because we care, not to cause drama or just have a go, or be awkward, we all have much better things to do and most of us have full time jobs as well as Camrog Hosting, just remember that.
Pete
January 19th, 2011 at 3:23 am
PS: We need the spell check back, because I type to flipping quick, and don’t spot letters ive missed, pretty please Frog.
Have a good day.
Thanks
Pete
January 19th, 2011 at 6:04 am
it all still a bout u ware dose camfrog fit in all this so there have two pay out so u all can be on line do u know the cast,s off keeping camfrog onlione 247 i dont think u do as for u saying we not bye codes ok cool that up two u but no one is byeing the codses know so it not like iot will matter this why camfrog have two do this becouse none off u have got codes wioth the lost 6 mouth,s and if u have 1 codes not loads is it as for camfrog not free it free u dont have to get a code do u two be in a room all have a room but it will have 30,s mic dont free in life name one think what u get free all u are doing is fucking it up for your salfe ,s and as i put me for lost off host,s dont pay taxt and one you have talled me u get £25000 from hosting room so ha ha ha ha
server cost £40 amouth from 1on1 that all u need for a room on 1 code u got 2 rooms online so ok lets say we have like this all codes 1 room ya not 2 room and there stay the same , but none off u be happy then so good luck have a nice day as i with camfrog on this one
January 19th, 2011 at 6:14 am
@gardeners
Could you please refrain from writing here as your ‘toddler’ English cannot be read by anyone.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:23 am
Update: Paltalk has decided to keep Camfrog Server and Bot serials as they are now, where they are not subscription. Camfrog Server and Bot serials will not change on February 1. Only Camfrog Client serials will change on February 1.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:28 am
look,s like u all win and metalhead dont talk two me
January 19th, 2011 at 6:44 am
Thanks for all that have helped Paltalk on this decision.
I hope all hosters will say .. Thanks for that !!!
January 19th, 2011 at 7:08 am
I think this is a positive decision for those of us that host rooms, although I still believe that the annual subscription will hit user levels hard, particularly those in Asia and the Deaf Community and other individuals on low incomes.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:22 am
Thank you for holding time for Froggers from 15 days to the judge date.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:54 am
paltalk user online under 80k
camfrog user online 250k+++++++
yeah current i like camfrog
January 19th, 2011 at 9:40 am
I would like to say 1-0 win to the Hoster’s, but that would not be professional of us.
So we are just very grateful as I have already mention on your FB page Paltalk/Camfrog have seen sense.
And most of all happy, you have listened to your camfroggers and customers, maybe this is a beginning of something to build on in 2011 a more interative relationship between Camfrog/Paltalk and there Customers.
Thanks again.
January 19th, 2011 at 9:47 am
And Lee (GARDINER) Chill out my friend, and I promise to buy you a pint one day
My English isn’t great either, but thats down to typing to quick lool.
Some people in this world have not had the luxury of going College, Uni etc. This is part of the reason some users will struggle paying the annual Subscription Fee (Pro).
So please don’t put down the not so lucky users of this world, we all want to use Camfrog to chat, so lets just do that!!!
Happy Camfrogging!!!!!
Pete
January 19th, 2011 at 9:50 am
OR Paltalk will do to Camfrog, what they did to FIRETALK. It was the SKYPE of it’s day and Paltalk buried it’s from lack of vision.
Break what works! Make it un-profitable!
Asian Market? Yeah right. They all use fake “nicknames” or PHONE NUMBERS.
Charge for time and lose forever. Charge too much and see. Life is just like that.
January 19th, 2011 at 10:35 am
good to hear the server and bot codes stay as normal other wise very simple its not longer possible to offer a small room for 15 euro a month
at least not if they had the year price same as the life time now
then only the host income is to less for the bot and server room , and then the data …. should cost us money and buisness is buisnes we have to eat to so yes we want some left over end of month to buy servers and more important my food
THANKS camfrog ehhh PALTALK uch
AJ
January 19th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Worst re-design of an internet page i’ve ever seen! Look for better Designers!
Are these professionals or did you take some amateurs? Nothing is working, graphic is really but really bad…. Invest some money there!
January 19th, 2011 at 11:35 am
yo me alegro mucho de que camfrog haya cambiado de opinion, si rectificar es de sabios, en este caso mas que nunca, ¿yo me puedo considerar hoster? si es asi me alegro muchisimo de la nueva noticia, asi poco a poco seguiremos creciendo y ayudando a camfrog a ser mejor cada dia. Solo una queja mas, me parece fatal que los nuevos seriales de bot no se puedan usar en los bot version 3.94, tendremos que acostumbrarnos a los nuevos bots. Gracias por cambiar de opinion administradores
January 19th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
honestly i think the company is making a huge mistake with converting to a subscription service for clients only, they will loose a lot more users now than they did before and eventually it will go under completely due to lack of users/revenues and security also.
January 19th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Ok Thank you clear…
Brother
Donal
January 20th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Calm down ppl,,,,,, why u r blaming camfrog adminidtration,,,,, the program now is owned by PALTALK….so they have the right to decide,,,, and sure they make that because they feel that there is a strong competition between them and camfrog,,,, its business,,,
i think if camfrog was getting good money, they will not make paltalk buy their program,, but sure they are losing,,,,,,,and for the ppl taking with emoticons,,, this program or that is made to gain money not to gain friendships,,,,,,hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
January 20th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
I do actually think the yearly subscription is a good idea (for clients) but not at the current price.. If it was around the $15 range.. I know i’d be willing to buy a few codes for my friends i’d like to see have pro but cant afford it… remember some parts of the world $50usd is equivalent to about 5-8 days pay… I really believe a low yearly price and going after volume is the key here to profit and success.. just my 2 cents worth…
January 20th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
I’ve been on Frog for a few years now and I wanted to add my input on this matter. First of all, although I understand the reasoning behind going to a yearly subscription fee, I feel that keeping the prices at $50.00 is making you look very greedy. I could see the sense behind raising the procode prices or making a yearly subscription fee of $20.00 a month or so but asking for $50.00 a year is outrageous in my opinion. There are quite a few other video chat sites out there so CF is not without competition. It took the Hosters threatening to strike to get you to pay attention to their concerns what is it going to take to get you to pay attention to the common users concerns? It would be a shame to see these users opinions and concerns ignored or disregarded because in my opinion these are the people who made camfrog what it is today. Thank you for your time.
January 20th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
i agree with waiting4myruca and zannexx, at least lowering the price might resolve the issue
January 21st, 2011 at 3:46 am
I would like to thank Camfrog from all the Hosters as some have been un able to post on here, so they have asked me to do it for them, I have no problem it doing that at all. So thanks Camfrog/Paltalk.
I would also ask for Camfrog reconsider the Subscriptions of Pro because I knw many will leave, but….. if you go ahead, do it sensibly and carefully. and not to quickly, lets not spoil a great program.
I just think you need to revise the yearly cost, because as I have mentioned before not all Camfrog users have lots of spare money to throw around on a program, when they have kids to feed and mortages, I know in the UK alone things are pretty bad in our economic market atthe moment, and many Pro Codes are purchased by Parents, many not working.
Just think logically, lower the price a bit, and I am sure you will still get the income your looking for, for improvements and investment, and it wont financially effect the new users of camfrog, because Camfrog wouldn’t come first if it was me, my family would, something has to give.
There’s not doubt it’s the best Chat Site around, we all know that, and I am sure this is part of the reaosn Paltlak purchased the program…but…..they need to do things the right way and we just hope and pray they see sense in lowering the prices, if there not prepared to abolish the new Subscription all together.
Thanks
Pete
January 21st, 2011 at 8:14 am
Paltalk typically rents servers/rooms. I am afraid this is the direction Camfrog is headed toward. Hosters are on their way out.
Paltalk has been declining over the years and is why Camfrog has been able
to profit. Many people left Paltalk to come here, but I think things will go the
“Paltalk way” before long. There will be an exodus of loyal users and a decline for Camfrog/Paltalk.
The press announcement of the purchase of Camfrog by Paltalk , spoke of the Asian market. We already know that that market will not pay much to use the service. Hobbies like chat programs need to be inexpensive, not more expensive. Time will tell.
January 22nd, 2011 at 9:53 am
camfrog if you want to make frog better i think u should look into aproved camfrog hosters subhosting rooms and riping off useers for bots and procodes and room keys the subhosters hide in the hosters good name and couse users to leave frog and thay boot lag and send pic invites to useers killing there pro codes like i t looks bad on paltalk and camfrog help stop the madness and lets bulid a new and better camfrog lets get on with the party and stop the drama for a better camfrog note noone will buy pro if everyones talking about being riped off thanks
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:16 am
Why are 4 of my server codes invalid and no one is answering the helpdesk email address. I paid good money and my codes are now not working. This is the second time, first it was my bot codes and now this!
January 24th, 2011 at 6:14 am
After reading the new TOS on Pro Code Licenses, what concerns me is the amount of information involved which looks like Paltalk/Camfrog are covering every angle, because in the future your going to stop all private Hosters.
So if Server/Bot Codes are not going to change, why add so much information on your TOS???
I would like to buy more codes, but reading these new terms, it seems to me theres a hidden agenda to stop all Hosters and Camfrog to run like Paltalk and Host there own Rooms.
Can you clarify, why so much detail has gone into the TOS on Camfrog Pro Licenses if you have no intention of changing anything??
Especially the Rent/No Music/No Profit Section (why would we just Host rooms pay for your Pro Codes and our own Servers, if we can’t make no Profit)
Thanks, just for my own peace of mind, before I invest in more codes.
Pete
January 24th, 2011 at 6:22 am
The TOS has not been changed. I think it’s exactly the same as it has been for years.
AusNet, to get help with codes you need to be the one that purchased them according to our records. Send the codes to the helpdesk along with the order numbers and order info.
January 24th, 2011 at 7:16 am
Thanks for your prompt response.
Can any other Hoster agree or disagree with this statement. Is the TOS on Lincences the same or different. It does seem different to us, maybe were wrong.
We do know the main TOS is the same, we are talking about the License’s TOS.
Much Appreciated.
Thanks
January 24th, 2011 at 7:39 am
admin, these are replacement codes, i do not have the information anymore. i bought these codes from 2004 – 2006.
I have no access to the information nor the transaction details as they where on a paypal account they was closed due to a security breach.
These codes that have been deactivated where codes you guys replaced. I have been contacting the helpdesk for days and there has been no reply as usual.
you guys removed my post from facebook.
Pete, i know you and i dont see eye to eye but we both can see where camfrog is going. It is going down the toilet. People are leaving because its all about making a quick buck.
I have been hosting since 2004 and we have invested heavily in hosting rooms. Thankfully our major services are not camfrog hosting.
Admin, i am so close to taking legal action i am sick of this drama, everytime i turn my back you guys do something to my codes. I paid good hard money for these codes and you keep deactivating them for no reason. First it was the bot codes, they were reactivated and now its the server codes. Whats next my 3 pro codes
I have 6 rooms offline, 6 paying clients and i need this rectified asap!
January 24th, 2011 at 7:57 am
AusNet, we are only able to help the people who own the codes that are emailed to us. If the codes you emailed belong to you we will try to help but if they do not belong to you we will be unable to assist you.
Please give us more time than a Sunday night to reply to your email. Our helpdesk will be online Monday morning.
The changes in serials have been discussed in detail for an extended period and I have now closed comments. If you have any other suggestions or comments feel free to contact our helpdesk. Thanks for your feedback.